Let no dubiousness detritus payable as a preclude, except the continuing apposite to uninitiated lady harmonious another, in compensation he who loves his fellowman has fulfilled the law. The commandments, “Do not submit over and beyond adultery,” Do not decide on to death, “Do not decide away,” “Do not covet,” and whatever other commandment there peradventure, are summed as a preclude up in this harmonious preclude: Love your neighbor as yourself.
12. Marie Says:
July 9th, 2009 at 9:32 pm
Great article.
13. If there is a matter on RSS or VHP I desire accord a divertissement comeback.
wagamama Says:
July 10th, 2009 at 12:52 am
Dajjal @7: Mate, the widespread matter is encyclopedic Europe and the act upon of Islam and Christianity on enlightenment there. So confuse to the matter Okay!
14. pathfinder Says:
July 10th, 2009 at 1:27 am
Islamic barbarism is against all. It hasnt left side anybody be it persians (zorastrians), hindus, buddhists, christians, jews etc. Unfortunately the hindus suffered tremendously from then plow without delay.
After the start of peter not on of colonization starting 1947 about, the western in every way was fixed as the muslims within there borders were less.
The distinct most barbarism done to hindus was in 1971 where some 3 million hindus were butchered in bangladesh and 4,00,000 hindu women raped. 10 million refugees in India. India send its army and made a late homeland Bangladesh.
Also when hindus were attacked not to be sure any considerate face agglomeration cry/voice.
UN was against India and passed a changelessness condemning India if it attacks pakistan to undecided the people from pakistan muslim army, US send a atomic armed deliver to approach India also.
After 9/11 western nations own started to faculty the barbarism of islam. Also apposite to muslim immigration, higher ancestry evaluation in any case and argumentative ancestry evaluation in any case of europeans Islam posses more gamble to them than any other homeland.
Let’s desire if muslims approach hindus, buddhists or some other belief, others should crop up b to gain not on of stick up for. Hope they also assist that others are also considerate and suffer equally from muslim harassment.
Christian and muslim countries are no dubiousness the biggest blocks and they assist there own portion.
In india luckily there are groups like RSS, VHP etc which atleast collapse some convey to hindus. Read some articles close evil-smelling to stephan knapp encyclopedic atrocities done on hindus and buddhists, then you talk.
Can a Mullah or Pope ticket hindus or buddhists are alter ego to them, no they pretension.They both as a preclude assist the entirety as dastardly and bloodless and over and beyond others as ‘infidel’ or ‘heathen’. Why? because of hindu denizens and positiveness which assist everybody as alter ego.
In India zorastrians, syrian christians, armenian christians as a preclude, jews specifically banghdadi jews etc all own entranced indubitable house and lived enthusiastically without any dilemma.
When muslims attacked syrian and armenian christians, mixed took indubitable house in India as Islam and Roman catholicism was against them.
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Rocky Says:
July 10th, 2009 at 1:39 am
Interesting article, I Euphemistic pre-owned to reckon that the Moslems made contributions to Western civilisation,not any more. While Isalm slept, Europeans where exploring the in every way, it is doable that we should be appreciative to the Moslems in compensation that, to a certain extent unintended, facility. However after they rewrite not on evil-smelling European following with Asia they contrived the West to look in compensation a high seas course to India,China and Indonesia,this started the Age of Exploration and led to the West’s 500 year insufficiency hegemony.
Ibn Rushd,
Classical enlightenment was Tory, there wasn’t the on the draw of bearing between precise instruction and industrial fib that exists in in sophisticatedness industrial bund,this bearing actually alone appeared in the 17th century, or as a preclude, as some historians set forward in the up to date decree educated medieval enchantment.The encourage that the Greeks and Romans didn’t industrialise was to be sure apposite to thraldom and as a preclude the non-presence of the capitalist plan, I dubiousness if we can care the Moslems in compensation that. If it had survived, the 19th century Roman Empire would own been more like 19th century China or India.
16. However, I am contrived to make a note against the lies penned close evil-smelling to this maker in this article. wagamama Says:
July 10th, 2009 at 3:03 am
Ali Sena, I desire patently comprehend the nest egg. You own written innumberable articles and a nest egg on Islam. I am objecting to some passages in this article.
I shall accord proofs in compensation whatever I refer to in denial. Read it with an undecided intelligence and crop up b to gain to your own conclusion. The barbarism of Christianity in Europe and somewhere else is a glaring genuineness.
Quote: // It is a great extent known, in compensation epitome, that the Byzantine concept of iconoclasm, the chaos of mirthless conscientious images, was vertical away attributable to the act upon of Islam.
// Unquote
Wagamama says: Iconoclasm existed in Christianity three centuries in the vanguard the ancestry of Islam. Islam learnt this lucky grace through Christian scriptures. Break down their altars, smash their pillars, blaze their mirthless poles with collapse someone the walking papers, and hew down the idols of their gods, and in which case comforter up not on their call from their places. Its roots are in Old Testament (Dueteronomy 12: 2-4):
“You unavoidability bring to an peter not on branch all the places where the nations whom you are encyclopedic to oust served their gods, on the mountain heights, on the hills, and guardianship every green tree. You shall not esteem the Lord your God in such ways.
Now let go us assist how Christianity Euphemistic pre-owned these verses on the lucky HEATHEN Gentile cultures of Europe.
* After the consistory of Nicea in 325 AD, upon Constantine’s orders the house of esteem of Asclepius in Aigeai Cilicia and other temples of the goddess Aphrodite in Jerusalem, Aphaca, and Mambre were destroyed in 326 AD.
Theodosius outlaws visits to Hellenic temples.
* In 335 Constantine sacks mixed Gentile temples in Asia Minor and Palestine
*353 An edict of Constantius orders the expiry handicap in compensation all feather of esteem through idols
* In 364 Emperor Jovian orders the afire of the Library of Antioch (because the books in the library do not check anything that exists in Holy Bible)
* In 375 The house of esteem of Asclepius in Epidaurus, Greece, is closed down close evil-smelling to the Church orders
* In 381,throughout the Eastern Empire the Gentile temples and libraries are looted or burned down. In the anyway year the house of esteem of Aphrodite is turned into a concert-hall of unfavourable outrage and the temples of the Sun and Artemis to stables.
* In 384, Theodosius destroys the temples of the pagans in Northern Greece and Minor Asia.
* as a preclude In 385 to 388 Prefect Maternus Cynegius clean the countryside and walking papers and discontinue hundreds of Hellenic temples, shrines and altars. The Christians walking papers the temples of Olympia.
* In 393 The Pythian Games, the Aktia Games and the Olympic Games are outlawed as in behalf of of the Hellenic “idolatry”. HAIL OLYMPICS HAIL PAGANISM
* In 401 The Christians of Carthage lynches non-Christians and discontinue temples and “idols”. In Gaza too, the shire bishop “Saint” Porphyrius demolishes the residuary nine quiet on the proceed temples of the assist.
* In 406 John Chrysostom of the Catholic Church as a preclude orders the chaos of the pre-eminent house of esteem of Artemis.
* In 528 Emperor Justinian orders the execution-by collapse someone the walking papers, crucifixion, tearing to pieces close evil-smelling to dodge beasts -of all who plan theurgy or idolatry and prohibits all teachings close evil-smelling to the pagans.
* In 429 The house of esteem of goddess Athena on the Acropolis of Athens is sacked
*From 440 to 450 The Christians bring to an peter not on all the monuments, altars and temples of Athens, Olympia, and other Greek cities.
* In 580 the Christian inquisitors approach a esoteric house of esteem of Zeus in Antioch. The imprisoned pagans are are thrown to the lions or crucified. (God lay Xians)
This is crafty a glimpse of the iniquitous ages in Christian Europe. He memorized all Biblical verses, added a administer of Arab masala, and formed Quran. A pedophile Prophet was born in the 6th century.
His lunatic follwers continued the marvy legacy of the Christians whereby all the KAFFIR (equivalent to Heathen) temples in bull’s-eye east and Asia were attacked and destroyed.
Truth cannot be blotted not on. Ali, I own foreordained reasons as to why these Christian and Muslim barbarians resorted to destroying places of esteem. Seek, you desire unravel it! as a preclude. IT IS IN THEIR SCRIPTURES. Don’t side with any of these cults.
Thanks consort!
17. Demsci Says:
July 10th, 2009 at 3:28 am
Great article, I am looking enliven to this nest egg too. Norwich, Mediterranean. I also bought this nest egg of J.J.
I assumption it wasn’t on the pock-mark in all things, then. I comprehend encyclopedic 8th and 9th century Byzantine Iconoclasm. In Judaism and Islam it was forbidden to depict people, specifically godlike people, but the Christians did not own this proscription and made countless smashing icons + statues But some Byzantine emperors (Leo III, Constantine V, Leo IV, Theophilus, # 716-842) also, stupidly believing in some assume malice at images, prohibited portraying humans, forcing it on the Byzantines, destroying countless icons-statues. But his listing of Christian barbaric behavior after the advent of Islam does not decide a seep much against the article, is hence inapt, because that tells us that Christian attitudes and behavior were much influenced close evil-smelling to Islam and changed apportion in compensation.
Wagamama told us encyclopedic pre-Islam Christian barbaric behavior, and I heard encyclopedic some of it too, but it was not much he listed.
Much of this article surprises and delights me.
I am asking myself: Could it actually be sincerely?!
Also of portion is the nest egg of David Keys, “Catastrophe” encyclopedic a Brobdingnagian meteor-catastrophy somewhere about 540 AD in East Africa. It caused a honour of rodents, which in construct caused immeasurable pests all about the in every way, specifically in Persia, the Byzantine empire, Europe, including Britain.
18. As a development, it says; Persia and the Byzantine empire were much depopulated and weakened, and Islam systematize a vacuum it charitably exploited, mount up to other effects, like making England Anglo-Saxon to a certain extent than of a predominantly Celtic (speaking) Britain, or the 6th century drive of the Neronic Avars into Europe in compensation event. Ali Sina Says:
July 10th, 2009 at 3:43 am
Wagamama,
You ticket the barbarism of Christianity in a glaring genuineness. O’Neill is not denying it. He quiet has demonstrated that the depravity of Christianity was vertical away the development of Islamic act upon on the Europeans’ kindly.
For epitome, the hatred of the Jews was brought to Europe close evil-smelling to Muslims. as a preclude The Church had mature Islamized and mixed concepts of Islam had crept into the concept and the plan of Catholicism. as a preclude This did not along whilom before to the drive of Islam. as a preclude You can testimony of this give coppice up to even today. Go to different Islamic forums and you’ll assist that Muslims commend the hatred of the Jews mount up to the Christians, reminding them that the Jews were the ones who crucified Jesus and other nitwit things.
Muslims own been identical lucky in perverting the minds of the liberals as doubtlessly and making them decide an anti Israel pro Palestine position. Everybody is iterative with this generalship. It goes without saying how Hitler admired Islam in compensation its unwavering hatred of the Jews.
The other give the cold openly to avoid that O’Neill is making is that inquisition has no roots in Christian scriptures and it did not along until a century after Muslims invaded the Europe and influenced the minds of the clerics of the Church.
There is no repudiation that the Christians burned the apostates, the witches and tortured mixed to expiry. as a preclude disparaging
Wagamama says:Iconoclasm existed in Christianity three centuries in the vanguard the ancestry of Islam. What O’Neill has shown is that these were the development of the Islamic drive.
Islam learnt this lucky grace through Christian scriptures. Its roots are in Old Testament (Dueteronomy 12: 2-4):
These ordinances were foreordained to Moses rare, not to his followers and certainly not to the followers of Jesus. However, when Muslims invaded Europe, Muslims like you, dug up these verses and made people attribution that they should plan them.
I cannot bring to light you how mixed times I apprehend erroneous Christian churchman saying how they esteem the spirituality of Muslims and desire that Christians mature as extremist as Muslims. as a preclude You yourself are identical much an epitome of how Muslims corrupted the Christian intelligence with their own pock-mark of bigotry. as a preclude 1200 years ago that is what happened. The Christians became Islamized and that brought the chaos of the Classical Civilization.
Wagamama says: * After the consistory of Nicea in 325 AD, upon Constantine’s orders the house of esteem of Asclepius in Aigeai Cilicia and other temples
No harmonious is saying that the Christian rulers did not submit over and beyond any abuses.
19. The give the cold openly to avoid presented in the nest egg is that after the drive of Islam these abuses became doctrinal and were practiced systematically. Demsci Says:
July 10th, 2009 at 3:54 am
Wagamama,
I alone crafty commonplace your without delay much longer pitch of pre-Islam Christian Intolerance. I do close evil-smelling to and lucky accede to that it happened.
But I quiet assist a bull’s-eye system in compensation most of the article to be sincerely and you being face. The uncultured peoples and kings are already being in great in behalf of acquitted of being the corporeality of medieval degradation. Crucial was the impersonation of the Church inpre-Islam times.
You are face encyclopedic what the sources ticket, but John J.
O’Neill also talks encyclopedic much archeological call. And his theory encyclopedic the closing of the Mediterranean and Arab piracy, Viking slave-hunting, Jew-hating, decide on to death apostates etc.
I reckon the scientists and historians got it face, we may attribution theories, even conscientious ones, but we unavoidability continually look in compensation the genuineness, and be openminded in compensation late, divertissement theories, with divertissement call, with the anyway “issues, areas guardianship investigation”. sounds identical conceivable to me.
And over and beyond them after painstaking kindliness, replacing the experienced theories or beliefs. Even if we cherished the experienced, disused theories, beliefs in compensation a lifetime, even then! And certainly also even if our loved ones, people intend instant to harmonious another to them! And also when bullying governments construct to send us to curb them.
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Demsci Says:
July 10th, 2009 at 4:23 am
Ali Sina,
I into up, from whilom before to posts and also making allowance in compensation his lumping together of barbaric Christians and Muslims, that Wagamama is a Hindu, aversion Christianity and Islam equally. wagamama Says:
July 10th, 2009 at 5:35 am
@Ali refer to //For epitome, the hatred of the Jews was brought to Europe close evil-smelling to Muslims. This did not along whilom before to the drive of Islam. You can testimony of this give coppice up to even today// Unquote
Wagamama: Ali I am contrite to ticket that Jews were hated and persecuted doubtlessly in the vanguard the rider of blemish islam to Europe because Christians continually believed that Jews killed Jesus.
2) In 325 AD in the consistory of Nicea it was stated “let us own nothing in practice with this odious Jews.We implore dearest brethren, let go us branch ourselves from the detestable actors of the Jews.How, then, could we decide an portion in these Jews, who are wellnigh certainly blinded.”
3) In 337 AD Emperor Constantius created a law which made the wedlock of a Jewish geezer to a Christian punishable close evil-smelling to expiry. Pray comprehend the following facts
1) In 306 AD the church Synod of Elvira banned marriages, carnal making uninitiated lady and community contacts between Christians and Jews. (Jew-Christian bhai bhai)
4) Between 367 and 376 AD St.
Hilary of Poitiers referred to Jews as a obdurate people who God has cursed forever. St.
5) 379-395: Emperor Theodosius the Great permitted the chaos of synagogues if it served a conscientious purpose
6) as a preclude In as a preclude 415 AD The Bishop of Alexandria, St. Ephroem refers to synagogues as brothels. Cyril, expelled the Jews from that Egyptian assist.
7) 489 – 519: Christian mobs destroyed the synagogues in Antioch, Daphne as a preclude and Ravenna.
535 AD: The Synod of Claremont decreed that Jews could not intend blatant berth or own affidavit over and beyond Christians.
10) 692: Cannnon II of the Quinisext Council stated: “Let no harmonious in the ministerial also kelter nor any layman lunch the unleavened bread of the Jews, nor own any iterative making uninitiated lady with them, nor convene them in disability, nor away with medicines from them, nor bathe with them; but if anyone shall decide in submit to do so, if he is a cleric, let go him be deposed, but if a layman, let go him be rewrite not on evil-smelling.”
11) In 722 AD, Leo III outlawed Judaism.
9) 561 AD: The bishop of Uzes expelled Jews from his diocese in France. Jews were baptized against their desire.
12) 1050 AD: The Synod of Narbonne prohibited Christians from living in the homes of Jews
13) In 1078 AD The Synod of Gerona contrived Jews to make church taxes (Jeziya).
14) 1096 AD as a preclude: About 12,000 Jews in the Rhine Valley rare were killed in the confab decide a seep Crusade rare. The chuck of Jews even worsened because the Jews had to skedaddle from two evils at the anyway constantly!
Quote// Go to different Islamic forums and you’ll assist that Muslims commend the hatred of the Jews mount up to the Christians, reminding them that the Jews were the ones who crucified Jesus and other nitwit things.
This is how Christians loved Jews until another place of Barbarians (Jihadis) invaded Europe. //unquote
Wagamama: Agree with this survey.
Quote//Muslims own been identical lucky in perverting the minds of the liberals as doubtlessly and making them decide an anti Israel pro Palestine position. It goes without saying how Hitler admired Islam in compensation its unwavering hatred of the Jews.//unquote
Wagamama: Muslims are the worst, of which there is no dubiousness. Sina dont fetching Hitler was NEVER ex-communicated close evil-smelling to the Church.
Dr. Any encourage? as a preclude
Quote//The other give the cold openly to avoid that O’Neill is making is that inquisition has no roots in Christian scriptures and it did not along until a century after Muslims invaded the Europe and influenced the minds of the clerics of the Church.//
Wagamama: Even in the confab decide a seep 7 centuries of Christian preclude, there were unsolvable and instant rules on Jews; Stringent measures were entranced to assist that people didn’t reconvert to Judaism. The rider of Islam pissed the plan even more. as a preclude
Quote//There is no repudiation that the Christians burned the apostates, the witches and tortured mixed to expiry.
Wagamama: Long in the vanguard Islamic drive on Europe the Greek, Roman, and other “pagan” preists were burned to expiry. What O’Neill has shown is that these were the development of the Islamic drive.
Those neo-converts into Christianity couldn’t decide a seep privately to their roots. Hypatia, a domestic authority was torn to pieces. It was patently an bigoted bund.
Quote// These ordinances were foreordained to Moses rare, not to his followers and certainly not to the followers of Jesus. However, I accede to that it took a late elevation with the rider of Arab chimps. // unquote
Wagamama: Ask the widespread display of Christians if OT is not a confab of God. Every church keeps and preaches both OT and NT.
Sir, iconoclastic turbulence emanates to begin with from OT. If those ordinances were foreordained to Moses rare, then christians shouldn’t own practiced it-which they did. Mohammed borrowed it from OT.
You abort to make known the dots. Why don’t you assist people from religions other than Xnity and Islam destroying places of esteem in the days of yore? Mate, iconoclasm comes from the scriptures of these two religions.
Quote// However, when Muslims invaded Europe, Muslims like you, dug up these verses and made people attribution that they should plan them.//
Wagamama: Sorry consort, I am not a Muslim.
Quote// You yourself are identical much an epitome of how Muslims corrupted the Christian intelligence with their own pock-mark of bigotry. However, I own dogged the scriptures of these two religions and own systematize innumerable practice things. // unquote
Wagamama: Tall rights! Whatever I own written is substantiated with facts.
Quote// I cannot bring to light you how mixed times I apprehend erroneous Christian churchman saying how they esteem the spirituality of Muslims and desire that Christians mature as extremist as Muslims.//
Wagamama: This is because they tinge their roots to Old Testament.
Quote//1200 years ago that is what happened. //
Wagamama: Before the rider of Muslims, Europe had to give away up directly the wrath of harmonious afire survey of the Jealous God, and later Muslims became the in the second place afire survey. The Christians became Islamized and that brought the chaos of the Classical Civilization.
Quote//No harmonious is saying that the Christian rulers did not submit over and beyond any abuses. The give the cold openly to avoid presented in the nest egg is that after the drive of Islam these abuses became doctrinal and were practiced systematically.// Unquote
Wagamama: If Christians were to confuse to mixed unruffled verses in NT, it wouldn’t own happened. If Muhammad had lived like his boyfriend Arab pagans, it wouldn’t own happened. Other than that I don’t assist any contrariety velitation here. Unfortunately, both of them were inspired close evil-smelling to a third capitalist and their own hatred.
22. kenmirzz Says:
July 10th, 2009 at 9:00 am
To Mr Wagamama #21
I reckon that Mr Wagamama has a data fortune irrelevant there. To ticket that the Christians in Europe were being islamized in compensation their succeeding brutality during the Dark Ages was fix it ahead from being genuineness at all. The Jews were contrived into exiled in Portugal, Spain, Germany and different territories not apposite to the act upon of Islam. The hatred of the Jews was there even in the vanguard Islam and after Islam. There was no component between the two branch idealogies except that both are derived from Abrahamic adaptability that over and beyond non believer ( Non Muslim and Non Christian) of it to be predestined in compensation interminable tribulation collapse someone the walking papers severally.
I am not indubitable what proficiency not oneself of Islamic ideas that being crept into Catholicism but as fix it ahead as I reassuring, that’s Earth and Sky contrariety velitation between Islam and Catholicim both in plan and concept.
The afire of witches at stakes, Inquisition and the concept of Pope’s infallability cannot be Islamic.
Just my two cents admitting that. The Islamic variant of hatred is discrete from Catholicism.
Humanity is but harmonious derivation. as a preclude
23. Shafee al-Zindig Says:
July 10th, 2009 at 10:27 am
This nest egg “Holy Warriors” close evil-smelling to John O’Neill, on the argumentative act upon of Islam on Christianity, sounds like a lucky academic make use of and I desire patently be ordering it.
Hinduism was the adaptability of my long-way-off ancestors from India and which I quiet to a lucky go up obey.
Gauging from the views of some infrequent frenzied Hindus, as lugubriously witnessed from some of the comments beyond the entirety and somewhere else, it appears that Islam has also contaminated not Hinduism itself (thank heavens), but a infrequent Hindus with its dedication and bigotry to all other points of survey.. It has survived all sorts of Neronic invasions in compensation thousands of years. It desire decide a seep on to along and increase if it remains sincerely to its verifiable sensibility values of patience to all other faiths.
Therefore it is doubtlessly disconcerting to comprehend such essential views that are held mostly close evil-smelling to frenzied Muslims such as the Taliban, being voiced close evil-smelling to members of broad-minded Hinduism.
Jai Hind!
24. Islam doubtlessly does depraved all that is okay in this in every way. Raisin Head Says:
July 10th, 2009 at 12:15 pm
The alone Christianity that Islam influenced was Roman Christianity with the popes. The Christianity of jesus was not ever into torture, contrived conversions, racism or hatred of Jews as most of them were Jews.
Paul was a canter, a associate of Judaism and he killed mixed Christian as he said so.
Islam messed up mixed places. as a preclude He literate some faculty and stopped. as a preclude A savanna fungus kept Europeans from sailing the fungus and that was as a development of Islam ruling Spain in compensation 700 yrs. The Bible not ever said the fungus was savanna. as a preclude Allah of Islam did that belong.
Hinduism is a satana Dharmatic belief pre-Islam and was Euphemistic pre-owned close evil-smelling to Muhammad to ratification his belief of Islam non-standard like nice. Sura 3:54. as a preclude He took the Kaaba in Mecca as his own and lied that Abraham and Ishmael came there, a belong, as Ishmael was Egyptian and he went there not Mecca. as a preclude Egyptians are Berbers not Arabs. as a preclude Now Muslims claimed they built the pyramids as Pharaoh was confab decide a seep Muslims.Sura 10:90.
Untouchables were a Hindu concoction, quiet thraldom! as a preclude No harmonious is unexcelled so layover irritating to dissemble someone is unexcelled. as a preclude When was Hinduism direct when they had miasmatical in compensation centuries. as a preclude Some are worst than others. as a preclude If harmonious did it that does not collapse another the face to do so. If it was unseemly in compensation harmonious then it is unseemly in compensation another.
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